neil: now you're getting weird. stock's hit, but gold rose 60 bucks an ounce on news the fed would pull back. gary, the fed moves everything, but gold is moving, moving, moving. what do you think of it? >> i think, once again, the ultimate fear index. it's been rising since july, better than anything else, even before the feds started hinting around or people hinted around that they were tapering. gold took off. i think that the deep down, people know this economy stinks, still worried about jobs, still worry about income, and reflected in the gold price. >> look at egypt, the growth that we actually got positive readings from china. that does help the metals, helps gold, silver, platinum, copper, all of them, but goi forward, gary b.'s right, the uncertainty factor. that's why yougo, a flight to the quality principle. neil: can't lose with old. >> well, you will lose.